I'm still trying to put together a strength cycle for this fall, just doing my research.
I really like EQ so I will be running a big dose of that, bigger than most. Basically I am looking for some good lean mass, maybe 10-15 lb. and lots of strength.
here is what I was thinking:
500-600mg/wk test wks 1-12
600 mg/wk EQ 1-12
20 mg ED halo wk 1-4
50-75 mg ED tren wk 5-12
50mg proviron or maybe arimedex or l-dex to control bloat ED.
do you think I could handle tren for that long. I know a lot of bros do 100mg+ ED but I thought maybe starting low would be the best course of action. I have never used it as an injectable.
I've also thought about doing the Tren A t a higher dose in weeks 8-14 to harden up my gains.
also I am contemplating drols because I have heard the strength gains are out of this world but I am worried about bloat.
current stats: 5'10" 219 mid teens BF(I am not a bodybuilder)
post cycle will be standard clomid/nolva protocol.
Looks good bro. Thats not too long to be on tren, you'll be ok. Run it @ 75mg/day. .25mg of armidex a day should be sufficient for you.
what about HCG? I have never used it before, though I wish I would have after my first cycle(I used Deca). with an anti-e during cycle do you guys see any use for HCG or not?
I have never used hcg, but it may be a good idea to use along with the clomid on acount of how hard tren useually shuts ya down. Bump for some hcg info for ya..................
might want ot throw in some Dbol or drols for some strentgh in the first 4 weeks. itherv thna that it looks fine to me.
Smallguy
screw halo. pointless. dbol is best imo, drol too much water and lose it faster.
shouldn't need hcg with that, but you can use if you want during the cycle not after. I would just run rimi at .25 per day (up it if you need to) throughout and clomid post and you won't need anything else.
the rest of the cycle looks good. way to do your homework.
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the problem w/ the dbol is the cardiovascular effects. I am training to get faster and stronger, like I said, I'm not a bodybuilder.
I know tren has a similar effect on the CV system as Dbol but by then the EQ should have kicked in, negating the shortness of breath. Hopefully.
I like the idea of drol too, but I can't put on a ton of water weight that will slow me down.
Halo seemed to be the most logical choice, I choose it over winny because of joint issues with winny. Doing hard sprints of pylos when it feels like your shin is going to snap in half is not fun, LOL.
Var would also be an option during those first few weeks, but I would rather save the cash and go with halo.
any of you bros every used drol with an anti-e? what is the bloat like?
thanks for all the great feedback.
arimidex will help a control the bloat from drol too.. drol is a good choice if you're having joint problems, it has a similar effect as deca..
what kind of test are u runnin
THE CYCLE GURU
enanthate-not sure on the brand.
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run the enanthate till week 13 and the fina till week 15 so clomid therapy is started at the correct time of each
THE CYCLE GURU
I'm also considering running prop ED or EOD for the first two week for more of a kick start along with the halo. Is this over kill?