Hi all,
primobolan(Methenolone Enanthate)
I have read various suggestions about half life ranging from 5 days to 10 days.....
Anyone got any input here?
Obviously, it will have an impact on shot frequency.
Cheers.
Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol(methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol)
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours
Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-Durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day
*winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day.
Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days
Ancillaries Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours
tks TA, I ahve seen that list.... but also articles which say 5 days.
Knows his stuff!
Sanctum, from my Anabolic Reference Guide (6th Issue)
"...shots are only necessary every 7 days. Primobolan Depot is effective for some on a bulking cycle and even though it does not result in large gains, it is favoured because it is so safe."
(Phillips 1991:Anabolic Reference Guide, p49)
thanks Xanth.... I have read that too.... but like all gear.... if the shots are more closely taken together the levels in the system are more uniform....., yes?
Yeah I see what you mean. Throw some more into the mix before the original shot�s levels drop too far. Maybe shots closer to 5 days would be the go in that case. TA�s post suggests the � life of M E is approx 10 days, so at five days you�d be offsetting the drop off.
You could also front load if you want to get levels to their maximal amount without waiting weeks for the levels to rise.
A lot of people disagree with that idea but I'm not thinking about frontloading in terms of "kick starting" the cycle...I'm simply talking about getting the levels right up there from the get go.
Yes, I agree with frontloading for the reasons yuo detail.
Used the roidcalc to check on levels....
I am thinking of using and average of 480 mg per week, and originally thought e three days......
so: how would you split the shots? given that it is 100mg/ml gear (although maybe 200mg/ml)
and
how much and for how long would yuo frontload?
cheers
if you check that calc...you really only need to do it the first week at 2 or 3 x the dose you plan on using weekly.
as far as the dosages/split...best find someone who's used it mate I reckon. I haven't used it so your guess would be as good as mine
thanks
TA�s post suggests the � life of M E is approx 10 days, so at five days you�d be offsetting the drop off.
zakkly
TA
S2K i get this info ,dont know from where i get it but its been in my compuer for 4 months check this it may help ,by the way i sued it O/S for more than 3 years :
Primobolan Depot:
Primobolan Depot is an injectable steroid produced by Schering and sold in various parts of the world. It contains the steroid metenolone enanthate, which is a long acting anabolic with extremely low androgenic properties. The anabolic properties of this steroid also are mild. Primobolan is most commonly used during cutting cycles although some users do stack it with stronger drugs like testosterone and Dianabol for mass cycles. This drug is most commonly injected on a weekly basis and dosages range widely. At 100-200 mg weekly Primobolan should not interfere with natural testosterone levels and should not produce noticeable side effects. In Europe it is not uncommon for Primobolan to be used at such doses for long term therapy. Among athletes, steroid novices will respond to weekly doses of 200 mg but regular users often inject much higher doses looking for a stronger anabolic effect. Primobolan Depot comes in 1ml glass ampules containing 100mg of the drug in Europe and 50mg throughout areas of South America. In the U.S. the 50mg ampules from Mexico and 100mg ampules from Spain most commonly show up.
Primobolan Depot: (methenolone depot)100 mg/cc, or 50 mg/cc 1 cc ampules
This drug is available from Schering labs in Mexico in the 50 mg strength and from Germany in the 100 mg dose. This version is very similar to the Acetate in that it is effective on limited calorie diets and is good for pre-contest use by bodybuilders. The difference between the two is that the depot lasts much longer in the system. For this reason, shots are only necessary every seven days. The Depot is effective for some on a muscle bulking cycle and even though it does not usually result in large gains, it is favored because it is so safe. It will not aromatise, it is not toxic, and it is low in androgens. Most common dosage is 200 mg per week for men, half that for women. It is more widely available on the black market than the Acetate. Prices are in the $15 per amp range for German or Mexican, even though the later is half as strong. It costs $3.53 per 50 mg over the counter in Mexico.
Primobolan Depot:
Description: 50 mgs. / cc. 1 cc. ampules. This is one of the safest steroids in use today. Users usually don�t report huge gains but the great thing about Primobolan either Depot (Injectable) or the tablets is that the gains attained from it are basically permanent ones. It won�t aromatize, it�s not toxic, and it has low androgenic properties.
Effective Dose: 200 mgs. / week � Street Price: $30 per ampule Stacking Info: Used on bulking cycles with Sostenon 250 and Deca-Durabolin. On cutting cycle used with Winstrol and Androil.
Primobolan Depot: (methenolone depot)
100 mg/cc, or 50 mg/cc 1 cc ampules. This drug is available from Schering labs in Mexico in the 50 mg strength and from Germany in the 100 mg dose. This version is very similar to the Acetate in that it is effective on limited calorie diets and is good for pre-contest use by bodybuilders. The difference between the two is that the depot lasts much longer in the system. For this reason, shots are only necessary every 7 days. The Depot is effective for some on a bulking cyde and even though it does not usually result in large gains, it is favored because it is so safe. It will not aromatize, it is not toxic, and it is low in androgens. Optimal dosage is 200 mg per week for men, half that for women.
Primobolan: (Depot)
Is a regestered trade make of Schering A/G avaiable in 50 mg/cc from Mexico and 100 mg/cc from Europe. Primo is the �Cleanest and Gentles� anabolic steroid, will not aromatize, non-toxic, low in androgens. Primo may be taken by both Men and Women. Dosages for men are 100-300 mg/week, Women 1/2 dosage. Primo is the only steroid that works well on a low calorie diet. Effective for bulking, but tends to harden and add muscle tone more that build big muscles. Primo great when added to a cycle (stacked) with other steroids, it tends to lessen water retention and harshness when stacked with more heavy duty testosterone injectables, like Omnadren/sustanon 250, Cypoinate/propionate, ect. Primo is an analog immune-stimulating steroid used be people with Aids and other with depressed immune systems to build up the immune system and other with depressed immune systems to build up the immune system and add lean muscle mass. Primo is not legally allowed by the FDA in the United States,but it is one of the finest steroids in the world today
another thing if u use clomid after it u have to wt 10-14 days .
hope that help
Thanks....
looks like every 5 days will be ok....
did some sums with the roid calc....
cheers all.
what primo you using? and if you dont mind me asking what its going for?
Home made Primo Mr Oz.....
yeah yeah.... I see the torrent of "list mes" now... LOLOLOL